Prudent Lad Daughters (part 3)

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From top to bottom this is JAD FRANCES T14, JAD ANNIE 1118, andJAD FRANCES T54  I expect you’re wondering why I would even bother to picture these thin young cows in late fall.  The entire breed is moving toward more flesh on less frame.  Most of the pictures in most of the ads show big-bellied bulls with fat butts and hips pointed to the sky and their female counterparts with short necks, and fat briskets pointing to the ground.  I’ve been there and I sure prefer these kind of cows.  They milk down a little and show a little back bone this time of year.  They’re feminine/fertile.  They’re built to walk and as I get a little older, I sure understand the advantage of less weight on a frame for longevity.

 

Prudent Lad Daughters

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JAD PRUDENT LAD 6157 was the calf that Shoshone Prudence 6157 was carrying when she came here in December of 2003.  We have used him heavily and several of his sons and now grandsons making him the dominate bull in the ancestry of most of our young stock.  I want to display several of his daughters so that you can get an idea of the type that he is siring as well as his prepotency.  I’m not trying to promote Prudent Lad.  He is deceased and there is no semen available for sale and it’s really not his genetics specifically that I’m concentrating.  What I’m promoting is the type of many of his daughters and the reasonable expectation that his grandsons will sire daughters cut from the same mold.   The above pictures are of JAD LUCY T72 and her bull calf JAD LUXOR YT72.  What I hope you’ll see and appreciate, is her overall femininity.  There is a softness throughout in these cows.  In their eyes in their hair coats in their skeletal design they are soft like a white tail doe.  Look at her neck her hip her shoulder her rib all indicators of femininity.  You can’t tell it from the picture but she is always looking in the direction of her calf.  She is soft in her demeanor also, kind, gentle, nurturing.  She is the essence of maternal.  Does it matter?  Does it contribute to ranch profitability?   Is it highly heritable?  I guess everyone has to answer these questions for themselves.  I will tell you that I like it and I like range calving cows with these characteristics.  I’ll try to get some PL daughters pictured and posted in the near future.

Recreational Shopping

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I’ve done some recreational shopping over the last year.  Some of it may have been more like impulse buying but at any rate we’ve acquired some new animals and I wanted to show them all to you.  This is MISS FOREVER 67 GFAR.  She has a heifer calf by LODGE OF VOLGA 0816.  She was purchased from Gary Funk.  She is a very gentle cow with an excellent udder.  She is a half sister to Shoshone Ballard 628 GFAR owned by Gary Funk and Travis Krein.  I like the cow and it’s going to be fun to see how she contributes here.

MISS FOREVER 67 GFAR


Bull Sale Information Is Up!

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2010 Bull Sale

We have all of our bull sale information up for you to view.  All of the information can be found by using the “Bull Sale” link at the top and letting your mouse hover for just a second.

There are video clips of each lot in the sale so you can see them a little more in depth.  Lots 54-57 now have videos up as well.  Click here to start viewing videos of the bulls and heifer calves.

We have added a photo gallery so you can have a better look at all the bulls and the heifer calves.  The photos can be found on the “Lot Photos” page.  Click on any photo to view them in a larger size.

Finally, we also have our full catalog available for you to download. It requires the Adobe PDF reader in order to view it.  If you would like a hardcopy, please fill out the contact page, or click here and let us know where we can send you one.

Thanks for stopping by, and hope see you at the sale.


2010 FORAGE PROVEN BULL SALE ANNOUNCEMENT

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We will host our Forage Proven Production Sale Saturday December 4th, 2010.  It will be held at 1:00 MST at the Dawes County Fair Grounds in Chadron, Nebraska.  We are offering 50 long-yearling forage proven bulls, 1 bull calf and 2 heifer calves.

JAD PRUDENCE 6100
JAD LAD S6150 W926
JAD LAD S6150 WK32
JAD LAD S6150

This bull is JAD LAD S6150.  He will have several sons selling.  The heifer pictured at the top is 6157’s last natural calf.  She is excellent!  Here is the link to her pedigree.  If you would like a catalog please go to the contact page and sign up for one.  We will have more information on the web page soon.

John & Ann Dockweiler Forage Proven Production Sale 11/21/09

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We are planning to offer 50 long yearling bulls, one bull calf, and three fall calving cows with heifer calves at side in our fall sale.  All of the pictured cattle sell.  If you’re not on our mailing list please go to the contact page and provide your address so we can send you a catalog.

JAD JR UN29

JAD JR UN29

JAD LAD S6306 UR09

JAD LAD S6306 UR09

JAD PRUDENCE T10 with heifer calf by JAD LAD S6114

JAD PRUDENCE T10 with heifer calf by JAD LAD S6114

JAD PRIDE T17 with heifer calf by JAD LAD S6114

JAD PRIDE T17 with heifer calf by JAD LAD S6114

JAD PHYLIX W6157

JAD PHYLIX W6157

JAD LAD S6306 UR12

JAD LAD S6306 UR12

Checking Water August 24, 2009

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Heifer by JAD PRUDENT LAD 6157
Heifer by JAD PRUDENT LAD 6157
JAD LILIANNE 1828
JAD LILIANNE 1828
JAD LAD S6114
JAD LAD S6114
LAD S6306 FLIRTING WITH A SHOSHONE PIVOT DAUGHTER
LAD S6306 FLIRTING WITH A SHOSHONE PIVOT DAUGHTER
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Heifer by JAD LAD S6150

I carried my camera this morning as I checked pastures.  Things look good.  Thursday August 27th will mark three weeks since we put the bulls in.  They are tired but happy.  🙂  Took a couple shots of bred heifers.  The Lilianne heifer picture is for the WYE enthusiasts among us. 

Notice anything peculiar about the LAD S6114 bull?  Like the swelling underneath.  Yes, it appears he has suffered a career ending injury.  I really liked him too.  Certainly one of the nicest looking Prudent Lad sons we have raised and a calving ease bull too.  The good thing is I’m working with a renewable strain.  It is NOT dependent on any one outstanding individual.   The strain is predicated on reliable continuity.   I didn’t cause it to be this way.  The work was largely done by those who came before me.  They used close breeding and selection to fix the characteristics to the point that, Iwill be able to use another young bull in the strain and expect with a high degree of confidence that he will transmit very similarly to the injured bull.  6114 was never collected, I didn’t have insurance on him and yet discovering his injury today was no big deal.  Replacing him will be neither expensive nor difficult as the entire herd is being used to replicate the same pattern over and over again.

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An Average Angus Steer

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For the longest time, I did not know or believe that “composition has the greatest impact on functional reproductivity”.  Now that I have met Leonhardt and studied Bonsma, I understand that the most valuable thing I can do as a breeder is to select and stabilize a good maternal type.  Realizing that “production values are self-governed by the environment”, I have stopped selecting for more growth and instead I let those values fall where they may.  Our EPD’s are stabilizing somewhat below breed average and I worry at times that my customers will lose too much performance.  People often ask me, “If you calved in March, what would your weaning weights be?” and the truth is I don’t know.  So I have watched the steer pictured above with interest.  He was born March 13, 2008 with an 84 pound birth weight.  His EPD’s are +2.1 birth, +20 weaning, +34 yearling, and +16 milk.  His $#EN is +20.94 and $WN is+19.59.  He is slightly inbred with a coefficient of 8.66%.  His ancestry is full of fertile, feminine cows that lasted and worked.  He was wintered through some bitter cold and nasty spring blizzards with nothing but winter range and a protein tub.  With all this in mind, I was pleased when we weighed him off grass, on August 5, 2009, and he weighed 946#.  What’s more, I think he can go on to the feedlot and continue to gain and carry enough weight to be profitable for the next guy.  I expect he will grid quite well because this kind usually does.  All this to say that if you want a low-cost, straight-bred system, my experience is that performance will be adequate and certainly the inputs will be lower with this type.  Maternal values can also be consistently excellent if selection is for proper conformation and production values are in line with the environment.

From a terminal perspective he’s easy to criticize.  We could want him to be more muscular, or higher marbling,  more volume/appetite, or larger framed. Perhaps we might like him to be smaller framed and earlier maturing if we wanted to grass finish him.  Clearly there are any number of genetic changes we could make to have the resulting steer top whatever terminal market we are aiming for.  However any one of these changes would likely have disastrous effects on the maternal conformation represented by the dams in his pedigree.

The only way I know to have “more” of whatever terminal characteristics are desired is to break the genetics up into maternal and terminal parts.

Therefore, there are two excellent genetic systems available, both of which are being completley ignored by the entire industry.

The first is a straight-bred maternal system.  Very profitable because it is simple, low-input, consistent, and produces average steers and excess high quality breeding females.

The second would utilize just enough maternal bulls to provide replacement heifers.  With proper maternal selection replacement females rates can be very low.  The rest of the cow herd can then be mated to produce for whatever market is desired.   This is the only way I know that you can have your cake and eat it too.